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    How to Report a Dispute
    Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    April 4th, 2022

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Seller

    3. Total Transaction Value
    450€ EUR

    4. Other Parties Username
    Discord

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    PayPal

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    [email protected]

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    [email protected]

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    Josephlink

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

     
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    @JosephLink is not the scammer. He was just the guy buying my account. He got scammed as well so I thought I should mention him in the post.
     
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    he got his account back from the guy that scammed us
     
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    buy and sell only from the site and with the middleman
    Anyone outside the site can cheat!!!
     
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    the guy that scammed us was from the site. we did it through the link and the middleman given to us was the scammer
     
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    Was the intermediary sent to you a scammer?
    There is only one intermediary on the site and its name is middleman
    There is no other middleman
    You must submit your account in 3way group
    Fake accounts can not create a 3way group and only the original middleman can
     
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    After buyer approval and seller approval in 3way group
    You must wait for the middleman to complete the order
    And after a while is transferred to inventory
    And after transferring to it, you can register the request to create a mm wallet

    It may take a while, but middleman will definitely check your mm wallet
     
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    stop bullshitting man. i wont get that money and my buyer wont get the account. i can screen share you the conversation on discord with your middleman which will show he has/had no intentions to mediate the transaction but to get the account, money and leave. i do hope you have some checks on who your mediators are but as they are they seem pretty love you
     
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    Okay I have checked on this issue.

    @PlayFair I have removed your comments 1st off since it has 0 to do with @Splooh post and is just pure spam/defamation. You have not provided us the required bank information to complete your transfer so we can't even pay you even if we wanted to right now. We suspended Revolut transfers so for us to pay you, you'll need to go into Revolut App, load up the virtual bank account details and paste those into your cashout ticket. If you run into any issues doing this, open a dispute here: https://www.playerup.com/accounts/active-disputes/
     
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    As for you Splooh

    Based on what you said above:

    Seller = You = Splooh
    Buyer = Scammer
    Middleman = Scammer

    The Middleman = Buyer

    The buyer is pretending to be a victim here transferring I assume a payment which he screenshot / fabricated making you believe the payment was sent to bait you into believing this is a legit transaction on discord but in reality the buyer is the middleman and the buyer scammed you with a fake middleman transaction. Included here the buyer may have sent you a fake email as well making you believe a legit order came in (Example: https://www.playerup.com/threads/no-payment.4260384/)

    How do we know this? What you described above is common with many discord scams and we have a history of dealing with this nonsense.

    Now here is the issue:

    Did you read the website before you decided to transfer this information over to this random person who was sending you an e-mail?

    There are Seller Protection Icons listed all over every single thread on this website so people read them before transferring any payment or account information.



    When you click on them you go to this page: https://www.playerup.com/support-tickets/knowledge-base/middleman-sellers-guide.20/. At the very top, we clearly posted:

    How will middleman services contact me?
    All middleman transactions are conducted on PlayerUp.com only. Never release any information, perform any service or release any payments if you're a seller unless @middleman contacts you through the Conversation Ticket System. PlayerUp Middleman Services will never contact you through e-mail, discord, steam, facebook, whatsapp, kik, skype, or any 3rd party service. If somebody contacts you offsite claiming they are from PlayerUp, it is a scam.

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    When should I release my account information to the buyer?
    Never release your account information unless (@Middleman) contacts you through the PlayerUp Conversation Ticket System. We will never contact you through e-mail, discord, facebook, whatsapp, kik, skype, or any 3rd party service. All middleman transactions are done through PlayerUp.com for security reasons.
     
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    Splooh

    All middleman orders are done on PlayerUp.com only. We do not do business on discord or anywhere offsite. Anyone saying to make a delivery through discord or email is trying to scam you.

    Do you use K,I,K, Skype, or another messenger service?
    No. All middleman transactions are done through PlayerUp.com for security reasons. Anyone who attempts to contact you through a 3rd party messenger claiming they are us is fraudulent.

    When should I release my account information to the buyer?

    Never release your account information unless (@Middleman) contacts you through the PlayerUp Conversation Ticket System. We will never contact you through e-mail, K,I,K, skype, or any 3rd party service. All middleman transactions are done through PlayerUp.com for security reasons.

    For more information, please visit this link: Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp - Video Game Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

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    No he is 100% the scammer here. You said yourself you transferred the information to him offsite through discord correct? He is pretending to have paid and there is no actual transaction here on PlayerUp. We would only ask you to deliver onsite if a 3 way ticket is opened with @Middleman in it.

    The only ticket we have opened with you is this one you opened

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    How does the secure middleman process work for sellers?

    How does it work?
    1). Sellers create and post middleman buy now listings (click here)
    2). Buyer clicks on buy now listing and completes payment
    3). We verify and secure the buyers payment
    4). We create a 3 way conversation ticket with the Buyer and Seller
    5). We inform the Seller which specific account information they need to release to the Buyer
    6). During this process, we will communicate and guide both the Buyer and Seller.
    7). Buyer secures and verifies the account
    8). Payment is then disbursed to the Seller

    Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp - Video Game Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
     
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    Please do screenshot it and upload the discord conversations here in full.
     
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    Just to clarify here once again:

    Buyer = Has Your Account
    Middleman = Buyer

    I assume the buyer said he sent payment to middleman and the seller you sent the account to the middleman? Then the middleman vanished and the buyer acted like he was a victim as well? The buyer 100% scammed you if this is the case.
     
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    Firstly, i would like to apologize to the site and its moderators for the use of foul language in this thread. i have read the sellers guide but hasn't been thorough enough. i became suspicious when there has been no notification on middleman site but by then it was too late. the interaction worked exactly as you have described it. i am thankful for your help and your work in preventing future problems. given that no money was actually stolen and the scammed banned from the site this had rather happy ending, as I have been able to regain access to the account through ea help. thanks for your help.
     
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